Steroids and Cycles

Dear Mick,
Since I’ve been looking things up on the web I’ve realized how little I know about this sport, So I’ve got a few questions I’d like you to answer. Been training about 7 years I’ve done a couple of cycles before but I didn’t get the results i was looking for. Now I’ve realized they were not very good. i.e. 1 sustanon a week over 10 weeks.

So I started again following the advice in your books, the dianabol cycle, now I’m on week four and I was wondering if it was possible to add something else. Because I’ve read that unless you use an injectable you lose all your gains. I was planning to use Clomid at the end of my cycle but if i can’t get it is HCG a good alternative.
Al

Hi Al,
No mate it is not true that you will lose all of your gains. Dianabol can be a great steroid to stay on alone if you wish. However I personally WOULD use a deca say 200mg @ 2ml once per week for the remainder of the cycle and see how you gain with that input. AFTER this cycle has finished I would see how you have gotten on and then add another preferably sustanon and then go for an 8-10 week course – with Nolvadex as well.

As for the Clomid, it is fine to use at about two per day, but don’t worry about having to use the HCG – I personally prefer it. I use about 1 x 1500 iu’s every second week – it is enough.

Steroids after 50
Can you help? I am taking a low dose say 250 mg sustanon and 50-100 mg test enanthate every 10, 12 days as kind of a maintenance protocol with 300 mg deca every month. I feel great I look great I’m just a little concerned about testicular atrophy. The nuts are a little smaller than usual but they were fairly large to start with. Too bad everything else didn’t follow suit. I’m thinking of continuing this protocol indefinitely. What say ye great Oracle?

Hi Mate,
I would definitely make sure that you take the usual 4-6 weeks off after every cycle at least and also consider using HCG during the off cycle too. I also take a shot of every few weeks whether I need or not to ‘top’ things up. It works fine for me – always a good back up. Try a shot of HCG once per week for a few weeks this may kick things back into touch.

Winstrol drinking?
I read something by Bill Roberts about some tests done on dogs where they gave them Winny amps orally. The data they came up with suggested (in humans) that from a 50mg amp, 37.5mg actually was the amount that became available. Anyone tried this? Also as it’s an alpha-alkylated steroid I take it would have to pass thru the liver.
What I’m thinking is it would be easier to throw a couple of amps in a blender bomb than to inject it leaving space for other stuff especially on short high volume cycles.
JC

Hey JC,
I have read somewhere that (allegedly), can be done. But I advise not to no matter what. Think about this. There are so may NEW and strangely weird ways of the application of gear all of a sudden coming up and surprising us all of late and I have no doubt there will be more to come, but, as these things materialize so will the problems too. Mate – use the tried and tested method and use a needle and syringe – fuck that idea for a game of soldiers!

I am always open to new ideas BUT when those ideas, in irresponsible hands get out of hand what the fuck will happen then? Will a couple of shots be enough? Maybe not, three or four may follow then anything else. Nahh mate, use a pin to stick it in!

Train hard and be strong,
Mick Hart.

“For anyone considering steroid use” This is a MUST READ… Layman’s Guides to Steroids I and II
WARNING: Do not read this unless you are ready to gain SERIOUS lean muscle:- Layman’s Guides to Steroids III

Discussing "Short" Vs "Long" Steroid Cycles and Growth Hormone

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Bruno March 4, 2009 at 2:29 pm

Hey Mick!!! I was wondering, can we put sustanon250 + deca 50 + oxymetholone 50 in just one cycle???? cuz where i live these r the ones that we can find that we know it´s real. Thanks Mick

PS: IM LEARNING A LOT FROM YOUR BOOKS. THAT´S REAL STUFF.

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Matt Doolan March 4, 2009 at 8:06 pm

Mick,
Hi. Bloody hell mate what have you done to me?? lol I brought laymans guide 3, i’ve owned the other two but they’re in the Uk, and i’m in NZ. geez man i forgot how many times that i can read and re read your books, the humour helps info stick in the old noggin, i say what have you done to me, why? cos thats the thing i’m now reading the book for the 3rd time and i only brought it about 2 weeks ago, i will be trying the cycles as i’ve decided to try steroids, not a rush decision you must understand, i’ve been lifting weights/bodybuilding for ages and now at 39 and becoming a grandad i want to look my best when i meet the boyfriend!! and of course my grandchild.

Mick thank you so much for (literally) the laymans advice, i can only really sum it up as saying thank f*** for guys like you

Matt D

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zac March 5, 2009 at 6:15 am

Dear Mick
im new this hole thing but have done a lot of research im going to be starting a cycle of epistane its a metylated compound and heard that that can be tuff on the liver, but thats all i can really get my hands on at the moment,any tips on how to go about the cycle and if u could shed some light on, pct if much of any would be needed,i have nolva…. thanks

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sean mcgladdery March 10, 2009 at 5:44 pm

im going to do my first cycle in the near future ive decided to go with d-bol 25ml a day weeks 1-6 and deca 250mg a weeks 1-8 1ml. pct nolva wk1 40mg wk3 30mg wk 3 20mg clomid wk1 100mg wk2 50mg wk3 50mg ,receptor+trib do i need to take nolva on cycle if so when do i start it cheers

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gabe lopez April 2, 2009 at 7:06 am

Hey Mick cheers from México City, I would like to know how can I get you´re books since I´m at the other side of the shore, any help will do!

Thnx 4 helping all of us.

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